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[KIA]EddZ
24-10-2002, 11:01 AM
A Day early I know, but tis exciting. :)

Please use this thread to apply to join the above league.

Applications should be in the following format. * denotes a required Field.

CTF Clan Name*:
CTF Clan Tag*:
HLCCL Clans under CTF Umbrella*:
CTF Clan Leader (up to 2)*:
CTF Clan Deputy (up to 2):
Preffered Day(tuesday or Thursday)*:
Members:
Any Other Important Information:

I will start the Ball rolling...

CTF Clan Name: BikkleD KillerZ
CTF Clan Tag*: BK
HLCCL Clans under CTF Umbrella*: KIA1 and PC
CTF Clan Leader (up to 2)*: EddZ and Raziel
CTF Clan Deputy (up to 2): Moony
Preffered Day for Matches(Tuesday or Thursday)*: Either
Members and Tag Display Info:

EddZ:BK
Raziel:BK
Moonymaster:BK
Duplex:BK
moz:BK
para:BK
DarqTai:BK
Puzuzu:BK
Dalehead:BK
Phat:BK
GaRpY:BK
Rapid:BK
Tyron:BK
Pride:BK
Lynx:BK
Angel:BK
sephi:BK
Taz:BK
Sliver:BK
ikki:BK

Any Other Important Information:

Listee
24-10-2002, 11:06 AM
ooo capture flag the

sounds good

i shall look for a clan..anyone need a player let me know

-arT.DiPoLe-
24-10-2002, 11:07 AM
Nice lineup Eddz :P

[KIA]EddZ
24-10-2002, 11:10 AM
Just for Listee.

Capture the Flag League.

Format.

League/Ladders if enough clans particiapte system.

7 v 7 - 3 Substitutes on map change. (WE HAVENT GOT 7 IN OUR CLAN FFS! I hear you cry. Don't worry! . Read Below)

Sign Up starts 25th October, details to follow on procedure.

Each Team needs to be signed up by Friday Nov 8th. First matches will be Tuesday Nov 12th November.

Matches will be weekly on Tuesday and Thursday, between 7 and 9pm. Please when signing your team, state which time slot would be best for you (Tuesday 7pm or 8pm) or (Thursday 7pm or 8pm)

A TEAM, will consist off, one or MORE clans regsitered together under the umbrella of one name. Each team will only be allowed to field players from those clans registered under that name. WON ID checks will be checked every match.

EXAMPLE:

KIA1 and PC register under the name Bikkel KIllerZ. This team is in the CTF league, and is scheduled matches on a weekly basis, mostly in their preferred time slot. Only players registered in the HLCCL database for KIA1 and PC may take part in these matches for the CTF clan Bikkel KillerZ.

A CTF clan may consist of 1 - 3 clans registered in the HLCCL League.

Match format is 2 maps, one CTF specific, and one valve std. If and when we get more and more CTF maps made, we will move away from Valve maps entirely. The 2 maps are chosen each week by league organisors, and all teams play those 2 maps. No home maps. 3 points for 2-0 or 2-1. 1 point for Draw. 0 points for loss. WS 1 FF1 (this is up for discussion). Other variables, force respawn etc same as league, but again up for discussion.

Will need 4 - 6 COMMITTED ADMINS. Exisiting HLCCL Admins, apply here.

Fixtures will go up every Friday Night, for the following weeks matches.

You can't "join a clan", if you already play for HLCCL clan. If your a free agent, join a HLCCL League Clan, and get them to sign (suggested with another clan) to the CTF league.

Listee
24-10-2002, 11:13 AM
pfft ctf sux......CFT is the way my friend!


i sowee
so anyway yay CTF!
EVERYONE SIGN UP NOW OR ILL TEABAG YA!

raziel.pc
24-10-2002, 11:33 AM
Looks awesome EddZ :) CTF is gonna rock!!

.[TT].Voodoo
24-10-2002, 12:10 PM
CTF Clan Name: Xtreme Tag Art
CTF Clan Tag: =XTA=
HLCCL Clans under CTF Umbrella: XaV and TT and maybe JA*
CTF Clan Leader (up to 2): Raziel and Voodoo
CTF Clan Deputy (up to 2): tox
Preffered Day for Matches(Tuesday or Thursday): Tuesday
Members and Tag Display Info:
=XTA=DtheoM,
=XTA=Negotiator,
=XTA=RAZIEL,
=XTA=Voodoo,
=XTA=Vi700,
=XTA=Morph,
=XTA=t0x-,
=XTA=TMX,
=XTA=MagnuM,
=XTA=Imp3,
=XTA=Lexicon,
=XTA=Arrow,
=XTA=BaakiO,
=XTA=DeepThroat,
=XTA=SpArkXz,
=XTA=Phoenix

There will probably join more people...

* maybe [JA]Aap2 will join if JA doesn't participate with another clan... (let's hope so :monkee: )

[KIA]EddZ
24-10-2002, 12:17 PM
Voodoo.

JA Aap2 CANNOT join your CTF team, unles the WHOLE of JA do so. I hope you understand this. Its a fairly simple rule/process.

Individual members cannot join CTF teams independently of their HLCCL League Clan.

So I will not enter JA into your clan details, until you have finalised this with the Clan leader. So your team consists of XAV and TT at the moment.

Of course, Aap2 could leave JA and join TT or XAV for HLCCL, if he really really wanted to be in XTA, and JA did not want to join XTA.

MaVeRiCk
24-10-2002, 12:18 PM
l0ol :|

its aap2 and hes in JA1 ;)

[KIA]EddZ
24-10-2002, 12:19 PM
hehe

Ok :), same rule applies though.

Edited to save confusion :)

MaVeRiCk
24-10-2002, 12:21 PM
ow ;(

raziel.pc
24-10-2002, 12:26 PM
Jeez im clanleader for 2 clans :P

.[TT].Voodoo
24-10-2002, 12:32 PM
lol... at least you're not a fakenicker :P

raziel.pc
24-10-2002, 12:51 PM
lol

raz!el
24-10-2002, 02:23 PM
cooli i'm leader!

./me very important

KillaBee|aap2
24-10-2002, 02:23 PM
ffs that rule suck, none op the JA people wanna join or play together 4 the ctf league :mad: :mad:

:monkee: :monkee: :monkee: :monkee:

raz!el
24-10-2002, 02:31 PM
i dont understand why he can't join us XaV+TT+JA 3 clans... must the hole clan join???

[KIA]EddZ
24-10-2002, 02:35 PM
I cannot see what you dont understand, as it would seem that you do understand it.
A CTF clan is made up of COMPLETE clans from the HLCCL league. I can't see what you find ghard to grasp.

The HLCCL leadership are unable to cmmitt the time needed to create a seperate database, registration system just for CTF league, and as susch must use the existing league database and registration system to govern the CTF league.

Because the CTF league needs a good amount of players, o take part in each match, some clans may need to join together to make the size of squad needed.

If Killabee really is the only JA player that wishes to play in CTF, then JA should allow themselves to be covered by the XTA tag, but if JA want to play with another team, which i suspect they do, then Killabeee will be forced to either play with them, or leave JA and join TT or XAV.

Rule isn't going to change, so decide what you want to do.

t0x-
24-10-2002, 02:35 PM
k aap2, join XaV ;P

[KIA]EddZ
24-10-2002, 02:36 PM
I think Tox grasps the concept, pleadse any further problems XAV or TT, talk to Tox. Thx

t0x-
24-10-2002, 02:38 PM
but...what about whole JA join XTA and only aap2 will play? :)

raz!el
24-10-2002, 02:38 PM
ahhh Eddz.... i don't know that JA would join with another clan :)

Then u r right m8y :P

btw... t0x from USA????

KillaBee|aap2
24-10-2002, 02:39 PM
:wave:

[KIA]EddZ
24-10-2002, 02:40 PM
Originally posted by t0x-
but...what about whole JA join XTA and only aap2 will play? :)

Certainly would seem tobe the thing to do if ONLY Aap2 wil lbe playing from JA.

.[TT].Voodoo
24-10-2002, 02:56 PM
lol... I talked to Eddz and I get the idea...

or XAV+TT+JA (incl :monkee:2) and no other clan for JA
or XAV+TT and JA (incl :monkee:2)+other clan

raz!el
24-10-2002, 03:03 PM
mmh...

btw How much teams do join? How many do u think?

[KIA]EddZ
24-10-2002, 03:11 PM
Maximum of 3 HLCCL League teams per CTF team.

raz!el
24-10-2002, 03:33 PM
i know but i mean how many CTF clans will be in the league

[KIA]EddZ
24-10-2002, 04:35 PM
I am hoping about 10 in total.

Switch
25-10-2002, 12:42 AM
:sailor:s' & http://www.gamers-forums.com/smilies/otn/other/ymca.gifs' are merging.

I'll lethttp://www.gamers-forums.com/smilies/otn/other/ymca.gif fill in the details tho :)

http://www.gamers-forums.com/smilies/otn/other/ymca.gif = Mav ;)

MaVeRiCk
25-10-2002, 08:33 AM
tee^hee :D

will do when i got time :)
just make sure ur in irc when i do it to make sure i dont forget any of the :sailor:'s

tIMor`
25-10-2002, 03:06 PM
Doubt -[D]- will take part. 7on7 is just silleh

-MFC2-Homer77
26-10-2002, 12:20 AM
MFC2 would be interested in a 7 on 7 CTF League m8.
But we need to know first of all that day and round about time of the matches. Cause we all havt to work. One of us begins working at 2 am ..

But first of all I will ask my players :)
Cya

P.S.: but it will not bring much fun if really div one teams join together for teams .. only btw - maybe fun for them :) , not really for us m8 :(

MaVeRiCk
26-10-2002, 10:53 AM
just an idea, but aint it possible that a high div clan fuses with a low div clan to keep it fair?

im not sure but to me it looks like Eddz already made appointments with PC before he posted the concept of this league. it would be much more fun if for example KIA teams up with SC, MOD with a div3/4 clan, TBUK and VLK.
Get the idea?

otherwise there are 2 killerteams which already eliminate the other teams of getting any further in the ctf league cuz theyll be outclassed from the beginning

raz!el
26-10-2002, 05:35 PM
who signed up yet?

BurNer
26-10-2002, 06:34 PM
CTF Clan Name*: K|LLaZ |n AcT|oN!
CTF Clan Tag*: K|A
HLCCL Clans under CTF Umbrella*: KIA2 / KIA5
CTF Clan Leader (up to 2)*: BurNer / InkB@tZ
CTF Clan Deputy (up to 2): EnIgMa / laachta
Preffered Day(tuesday or Thursday)*: Thursday
Members: All KIA2 and KIA5....
Any Other Important Information: We will deffo beat the shit out of BK n00bs.... :sailor:


(some things can be changed by talking to me (BurNer) if someone in KIA2 or KIA5 is against this)

-BurNer-

raz!el
26-10-2002, 07:12 PM
one more clan!!!

BK
XTA
VLFK
K|A
Tag+flower
D
mfc (maybe)

forgot any?

[TAG]Hench
27-10-2002, 05:00 AM
but aint it possible that a high div clan fuses with a low div clan to keep it fair?

keep if fair?????

jeezzzzzzzz, steal the flag more then the other clan !!
no matter if it`s 2 div 1 teams vs some div 5 teams
a flag is a flag !!
and you can steal it ................


btw, and a defence is a defence :)

[TAG]Hench
27-10-2002, 05:01 AM
ffs board, no edit allowed DOH !!
and the :/ zz`s that make a sleepy smilie :)

-MFC2-Homer77
27-10-2002, 06:48 PM
Ok it seems that MFC will be with u :)

CTF Clan Name*: Master Force Clan
CTF Clan Tag*: MFC
HLCCL Clans under CTF Umbrella*: MFC
CTF Clan Leader (up to 2)*: Homer77 and someone else (wait a few days :) )
CTF Clan Deputy (up to 2): wait for this, too
Preffered Day(tuesday or Thursday)*: Thursday m8 but not too late!
Members: all players who are in MFC2 Database
Any Other Important Information:
We are only a div 6 team :/ so u all can join to play us ;)
We will call MFC not MFC2 at CTF, cause it never gave a CTF Team of MFC before.

Some changes -> I will post here.

raz!el
27-10-2002, 07:55 PM
why mfc2? i thought mfc is dead... ???

-MFC2-Homer77
27-10-2002, 08:07 PM
MFC not dead. But our former MFC Team1 quit HLCCL for playing something else now. But MFC2 still playes league and cup. But 'cause there was never an MFC at CTF Section, cause this is new, we wanna play with all members of MFC2 as MFC in that CTF league. Understand?

raz!el
28-10-2002, 03:05 AM
mfc... yeah !!! more clans for CTF

storm^cam
28-10-2002, 04:24 AM
there might be 1 more clan which will participate in ctf league - enough said for now; further more info coming soon

storm^cam
28-10-2002, 04:30 AM
Originally posted by rAz
one more clan!!!

BK
XTA
VLFK
K|A
Tag+flower
D
mfc (maybe)

forgot any?

doubt it = etwas bezweifeln; :)

matando
28-10-2002, 08:58 AM
KIA2 will form a clan with SC.
Wicked and Hutt/Mclane will supply you with more details.

Hutt'nKloas
28-10-2002, 10:08 AM
Ooooh:confused:
LOL lads, weldone didnt know about it as I was ill, so this can be contributed to the 1337 pimpin skillz of McClane:hihi:

Lookin forward to it!:cool:

Hutt'nKloas
28-10-2002, 11:40 AM
Btw matando, after havin read this thread a bit more carefull, its alrdy announced that kia5/kia2 will merge?
as I dont have any info at all atm, can someone who does confirm or deny this?

raz!el
28-10-2002, 02:42 PM
Originally posted by storm^cam
doubt it = etwas bezweifeln; :)

Jaja :) is mir auch aufgefallen als ich das nochmal gelesen hab :)

Troj
28-10-2002, 05:50 PM
Personally if I was a Div1 clan, I would make a point of picking a weaker clan to pair with the interests of fun for ALL. Not just my own clan that would "ownor" all opponents with 30% of top div1 players. ;)

Gonna kill some of the enjoyment b4 its started imho.

irish
28-10-2002, 08:04 PM
CTF Clan Name : Dirty Half-Life Dozen - Veteran Muppets
CTF Clan Tag : -dhd-vm-
HLCCL Clans under CTF Umbrella*: -dhd-v and -dhd-m
CTF Clan Leader (up to 2)*: Madmoony and Irish
CTF Clan Deputy (up to 2): BD
Preffered Day for Matches(Tuesday or Thursday)*: Either
Members and Tag Display Info:

-dhd-Madmoony-vm-
-dhd-Irish-vm-
-dhd-Moulder-vm-
-dhd-Xenex-vm-
-dhd-Tiddeli Pom-vm-
-dhd-Canteen_Boy-vm-
-dhd-Redguy-vm-
-dhd-Dogmeat-vm-
-dhd-Mephisto-vm-
-dhd-Zmaster-vm-
-dhd-Slipper-vm-
-dhd-ANi-vm-
-dhd-Poison-vm-
-dhd-Bi0_gauss-vm-
-dhd-Maniac-vm-
-dhd-Centaur-vm-
-dhd-SpaZ-vm-
-dhd-BlackDeath-vm-
-dhd-TrouK-vm-
-dhd-Spider -vm-
-dhd-HaCktiC-vm-
-dhd-Paister -vm-
-dhd-MadMick -vm-

-BANZAI-
28-10-2002, 08:52 PM
When is the signup gonna close exactly?
we still need some time to get our team together........

[CWA]Steve
29-10-2002, 02:10 AM
Yeh I suggest in the spirit of hlcup ratios that Div1 clans are forced to mix with div7 clans, and div2 with div6 etc. This way the teams should be much more even, and the league wont be ruled by all the div1 clans joining together. Would be a lot more fun methinks.

Hippychix
29-10-2002, 02:23 AM
Steve and Troj are RIght for once!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

;)

but honestly.. how do people like me get to play and have fun if its a constant torture play..

i just want to have fun ... i can be tacticful (if thats a word)

sigh

:cry:

Hutt'nKloas
29-10-2002, 10:43 AM
Agree with Steve & Troj!:cool:

Btw SC is still in the running to form a team, atm in negociations with VLK and MOD

Troj
29-10-2002, 11:13 AM
.

Psymonkee
29-10-2002, 11:16 AM
A nice profiund statement Troj ;)

deffo right tho: higher div clans should team with lower div clans

much more fun and interesting - although it could lead to only the higher div clan getting a game :(

BurNer
29-10-2002, 11:32 AM
d2sc :D -----> dedicated to shadow warriors ;)

[KIA]EddZ
29-10-2002, 11:38 AM
KIA have 7 players, we don't need to fuse with anyone, neither do PC, but PC are our close m8s, and we have never ad the opportunity to do something with them b4, when Raz read about it, he contacted me straight away, as he thought, and I agreed, that would be really god fun to do it together. The "best" 7 members wont be picked each wek, it will just be a mix n match, and as such BK are no stronger than KIA or PC individually.

We DO NOT care about winning, at all. And if we have to play 5 v 7 or 5 v 8 or 9.... well summin like that, to make it fair in others eyes, so be it, we just wanted to do this together.

BTW, good to see KIA2 and KIA5 getting it together. Are SC joining that CTF clan?

I am hoping to get about 10 - 12 clans, so maybe a 2 ladder system?

Hutt'nKloas
29-10-2002, 11:52 AM
Hey EddZ, just had a final word with Zaxxon from VLK
SC will form a team with them, details will follow asap:)

Troj
29-10-2002, 12:01 PM
So this isn't open to debate? I might not even play so you can be assured I am utterly non biased and only thinking about mutual enjoyment. So KIA have no un1337 friends eh? :p Having KIA1-5 I woulda thought made it very easy for you to pick a lower div clan. To play uneven number of players would also detract methinks as it's supposed to be a team game, not just a smaller group of uber 1337 individuals.

Troj
29-10-2002, 12:02 PM
I await D to merge with PMERS and STORM in response to your uber 1337 squad eddz :P

[KIA]EddZ
29-10-2002, 12:02 PM
To try and combat the stronger teams wipping the weak ones fear, how about a handicap system?

I am already thinking about making the amount of people that play solely dependent upon map, so for example, big maps will be 8 v 8, small maps 5 v 5 etc.

How about we add to that a handicap system, where teams like BK geta -1 handicap , so on a 4 v 4 map (Stalk) BK can only play 3 peeps (4 - 1), and a team made if 2 low div sides gets to have a handicap ratio like +1 or +2, so on a 4 v 4 map they would be allowed 5players (+1) or 6 players! (+2), which i think would even it all out.

We seriously have not gone with PC because we are desperate to win, this league will be fun, and we have always wanted to merge with pc, just not been viable in the normal league, this gave us a great opportunity to play all together.

As such, I dont want to have to not play with PC just beacuse it would make us a too strong team, and ruin everyone elses fun, but I do understand that that is a big concern, in a league designed for fun, so maybe by handicapping teams dependent on apparent ability, we could solve this issue.

What peeps think?

Also can people list he maps that they think would be good for CTF, and how many players should play them?

Stalk 4 v 4 imo
Datacore 5 v 5 imo
etc etc

[KIA]EddZ
29-10-2002, 12:06 PM
Originally posted by Troj
So this isn't open to debate?

hmm

Yes m8, open 100% to debate.

tIMor`
29-10-2002, 12:09 PM
Just keep it at one number imo, i.e. 4on4 or 5on5 or 7on7 etc. Having 7 players turn up jusdt for 20 minutes isn't nyce if the next map is only 4on4.

Handicap causing loads of hassle, especially if you decide to make it 3on4 by removing players etc.

[KIA]EddZ
29-10-2002, 12:12 PM
Tim

Because of the low amont of maps, and also becuase in the maps that arent mirrored, the flag areas will be different, so 1 team may get a easier place for the flag to defend etc, was thinking of making it 1 map a week. Either the match is 1 x 30 min map for symmetrical maps or 2 x 15 mins for maps that are uneven, with each team defedning the red flag and the blue flag once, and scores combined after.

Again what peeps think of this?

raziel.pc
29-10-2002, 12:19 PM
Great idea m8!

1 map per week 30 minutes is also good i think, tim got a good point with mapchance stuff.

So we make a ctf-group system then? Like the handycapped cup, great idea again ;)

storm^cam
29-10-2002, 01:12 PM
just play the "team fortress classic" maps! :D they are mirrored all...

[KIA]EddZ
29-10-2002, 01:19 PM
Cam, if you could get a mapper, to make it so we could use them, we would GLADLY do so, but i dont think currently its as simple as just changing the map to the TFC map name.?

storm^cam
29-10-2002, 01:25 PM
well hmm why not?

i can even play normal valve maps on tfc... already did that. or counterstrike ive played on stalkyard... well without the ability to buy or something... and one point is missing, the refill crap wouldnt work :/

raz!el
29-10-2002, 01:55 PM
mmmh... the valve maps aren't good for CTF i think...


I think here are some peeps who can convert a map from OP4 to AG... i thinks thats a better solution... i'll ask a friend maybe he can try...
And and the moment there are 5-6 CTF maps and i think that will work for 3 weeks...

/me out

-arT.DiPoLe-
29-10-2002, 01:59 PM
Hmm I don't like the handicap idea, it wouldn't make any difference if you make it 3v4 or something like that.
When the plan about a ctf league was proposed, I posted almost imediatly about the fact that div1 clans stick together etc.

It would be cool if there was a rule that a division 1 clan HAVE to merge with div 6 or so clan. And visa versa. And that both clans play.
The weaker teams learn from the stronger teams, and there will be more competition imho.

Now I can give you the teams who will play final.

[KIA]EddZ
29-10-2002, 02:04 PM
Ok Bav, BUT if we say Div 1 MUST go with Div 6, DIv 2 with Div 5, Div 3 with Div 4, I dont think that leaves us with many CTF clans that are allowed. Any solution.

And a lot of clans have a couple ofplayers that are Div 1 std, whats to stop them just playing the 5 6 7 players they have that are all Div 1 or 2 std, and beating a clan easily that is trying to mix it up with noobs and vets?

I am totally open to suggestions, BUT, if we are to restrct in the name of fairness who can join with who, then we need rules that will gaurantee that it is fair throughout.

raziel.pc
29-10-2002, 02:11 PM
tbh i wouldnt want to merge with a clan i dont know

Perhaps a Flagratio then?

raz!el
29-10-2002, 02:14 PM
ban Div1 clans :P j/k

mmh.. i dont think handicaps will work.. cauz i think there is not much difference for a Div1 player to kill 1 Div6 player or 2..

I got no solution for this problem :( but i think it will be funny to see a DiV1 clan with a Div6 clan... but i think it's free who teamup with who...

Hutt'nKloas
29-10-2002, 02:30 PM
Raziel, We as SC merge with VLK
they hardly know us and we hardly know them.
During the wars u really get to know whos behaving oki and whos not, so U ofcourse can refuse to join up with bad attitudes fi
But i dont see any probl in joinin with a clan We dont know if its just for a try-out league! Its for Fun, besides that its even a nice way to get to know those clans u didnt know before:P

IMHO I also would go for a div1/6, Div2/6, div3/5, div4/4 clan teamup
But whatever u guys decide, give the lower clans(div7/5) a chance to win else the chance is there they wont sign up at all

[KIA]EddZ
29-10-2002, 02:42 PM
What Division are SC, VLK will be Div 3 or 2 next season.

So I,m not sure under the suggested restrictions, SC and VLK would be an allowed partnership. This is the sort of problem I will have to try and deal with i we impose Clan joining "regulations", or are you suggesting that the only problem is 2 Div 1 clans joining together, and it doesnt matter who else joins as a single squad?

As I said b4, imo a LOT pof div and 3 clans have a couple of players that are easily Div 1 std, certainly much better than the likes of me and the KIA guys (not moony and Garpy of course), put them together, and you will have a team that is easily as good as a 1st Div squad. so that said, should we enforce a change system, wher you must not play the same players all the time, to prevent 2 clans joining together and just fielding their best 6 or 7 etc players each week.

We have some time to think this through, and get it right. Its gonna be a fun league, I wanna make sure that is exactly what it is. But a knee jerk raction to PC and KIA joining, isn't gonna be enuff to run it smoothly, if it is to be changed for the sake of fairness, it has to be fair to all.

ps. Still think a handicap system would work, as long as we get the handicaps right ;)

raziel.pc
29-10-2002, 02:48 PM
Thats the point i never play div6 or 7 clans really im sure they all nice peeps but too much hassle for me tbh

I vote for handicap system!

Hutt'nKloas
29-10-2002, 02:55 PM
Heheh EddZ fair point m8, but tbh I havent played vlk yet, I do know they won div7 easily and that they do have some decent fraggers(but to state their div2/3 aint that a bit premature?), we as SC have gotten thru to div4

Dont get me wrong I aint postin here to pick on the choice u made to merge with PC;)
Im fully trusting in the fact u lads are tryin to setup this league as fair as possible, if that means we have to let go of our partner then so be it but rather not:)

Hmm Raziel m8y, U dont know what ya missing m8:)
the greatest surprise always comes from the places where the sun doesnt shine, ahum............ I mean there's quit some potential and fun goin on in lower divs m8:)
May I ask whats the hassle ure referring too?

Psymonkee
29-10-2002, 03:07 PM
me :D

I'm just cannon fodder :D

raziel.pc
29-10-2002, 03:12 PM
Hmm Raziel m8y, U dont know what ya missing m8:)
the greatest surprise always comes from the places where the sun doesnt shine, ahum............ I mean there's quit some potential and fun goin on in lower divs m8:)

Ur problably right :)


May I ask whats the hassle ure referring too?
Surely m8:
With hassle i mean setting up equal teams every week and making tacts, getting everyone to be in irc on time etc.

With a clan like KIA this isnt a real issue. If im not around i have every confident that EddZ will take over to handle such things and vice versa. Besides, im good friends with them so it makes it extra fun for me.

Its hard enough for me as it is to get 5 PC online every week (mostly we have though)
As clanleader u can understand what i mean i think..

Hutt'nKloas
29-10-2002, 03:20 PM
Yeh I do raziel;)
btw thx for honest reply:)

but fi things i cant handle myself I leave to my 2nd in command: JohnMcClane, thats helpin me a lot.

Regarding the tasks that comes with bein a CL, I do have the time for it so ic it as a task that gives me pleasure.
Maybe I underestimate the extra preperation time Higher div clans need to stay on top, but it just seemed to me that if ure a long term clan in this league things happen to sort out themselves as peeps know u and u know them peeps ure dealing with:)
But indeed I have to admit when it comes to being mutural friends I prefer to have a game/teamup with them too:)

raziel.pc
29-10-2002, 03:27 PM
Good point too..
but in the beginning it would be very hard i think to just set up a merge between 2 clans that dont know eachother. (just that they are both nice/relax/friendly clans)

tIMor`
29-10-2002, 03:35 PM
Why not just make it 4on4/5on5? Chose one map each week, two lots of 20 mins with each clan being "blue" first (for example) then red for the next 20 minutes on the weeks designated maps? That way many more clans can join and there's less hassle in having join up with a clan, create a decent handicap etc.

raz!el
29-10-2002, 03:47 PM
I played 1 CTF 'War' with 6o6 and it was real fun! i don't think there is a fun with just 4o4 just on such big maps like agctf_outland (great mape, looks very g00d). I prefer 6o6 ot 7o7 that r0x :D

ReNo
29-10-2002, 05:33 PM
I may try and create another AGCTF map sometime, perhaps based on one of my other maps (means I can knock one up quicker by reusing some of my original source files :)) Doubt it would be as big as outland as that took quite a while to build, but we shall see.

Any requests on style or anything? Indoors, outdoors? Open, twisty, cramped? Any of the areas in any of my maps you think could work well in a CTF map?

RedGuy
29-10-2002, 05:55 PM
Maybe some one should contact AW to convert some op4ctf maps. Some of his own and some GBX made maps.

riga
29-10-2002, 08:13 PM
Originally posted by tIMor`
Why not just make it 4on4/5on5? Chose one map each week, two lots of 20 mins with each clan being "blue" first (for example) then red for the next 20 minutes on the weeks designated maps? That way many more clans can join and there's less hassle in having join up with a clan, create a decent handicap etc.

^ the solution

bi0_gauss
29-10-2002, 08:50 PM
tims idea sounds like it would work the best
gj m8 :monkee:

matando
29-10-2002, 09:08 PM
I'd say; let's just try it out without any restrictions.
CtF is no deathmatch it's more about tactics. off course 2 div1 clans will kick most of the lower combination there ass, but lower clans might have far better tactics and will beat clans that are much higher then they are.

Let's just see how it goes, it'll be fun anyways :)

spes|imperii
29-10-2002, 09:59 PM
no restrictions are best

let l337 merge with l337 and noobs with noobs, after all its normal that the l337 seeks the l337 as a companion.....

after all its just ctf, who cares anywayz


DDT might merge with IK, IŽll ask kykoyokyoko asap

Switch
30-10-2002, 07:39 PM
CTF Clan Name*:Capture-the-ArmA-UK (lol mavs idea)
CTF Clan Tag*:[CTA][UK]
HLCCL Clans under CTF Umbrella*:TBUK & ArmA
CTF Clan Leader (up to 2)*:TBA
CTF Clan Deputy (up to 2):TBA
Preffered Day(tuesday or Thursday) : Either
Members:
:sailor:[CTA]switch[UK]
:sailor:[CTA]spirit[UK]
:sailor:[CTA]memran[UK]
:sailor:[CTA]swift[UK]
:sailor:[CTA]2Drunk2Funk[UK]
:sailor:[CTA]geddon[UK]
:sailor:[CTA]eagle[UK]
:sailor:[CTA]parallax[UK]
http://smilies.networkessence.net/otn/other/ymca.gif [CTA]maverick[UK]
http://smilies.networkessence.net/otn/other/ymca.gif [CTA]boris[UK]
http://smilies.networkessence.net/otn/other/ymca.gif [CTA]sid[UK]
http://smilies.networkessence.net/otn/other/ymca.gif [CTA]soulfly[UK]
http://smilies.networkessence.net/otn/other/ymca.gif [CTA]apollyon[UK]
http://smilies.networkessence.net/otn/other/ymca.gif [CTA]flex[UK]
http://smilies.networkessence.net/otn/other/ymca.gif [CTA]eifion[UK]
http://smilies.networkessence.net/otn/other/ymca.gif [CTA]anakin[UK]
http://smilies.networkessence.net/otn/other/ymca.gif [CTA]tiggr[UK]
http://smilies.networkessence.net/otn/other/ymca.gif [CTA]aad[UK]
http://smilies.networkessence.net/otn/other/ymca.gif [CTA]superfly[UK]
http://smilies.networkessence.net/otn/other/ymca.gif [CTA]mynx[UK]
http://smilies.networkessence.net/otn/other/ymca.gif [CTA]onyx[UK]

:clap:







http://www.gamers-forums.com/smilies/otn/other/ylusy.gif

MaVeRiCk
30-10-2002, 07:50 PM
:naughty:

[KIA]EddZ
30-10-2002, 07:56 PM
lol

Boris
30-10-2002, 08:28 PM
l337 :)
I like it.

SiD
31-10-2002, 12:34 AM
YAAAAAAAAAY :clap:

Ir in :D

SuperFLY
31-10-2002, 05:16 AM
lol phrootie!

MaVeRiCk
31-10-2002, 10:29 AM
:cheese:

prepare to be battied :D

spirit
31-10-2002, 11:25 AM
*:http://www.hlccl.com/forums/images/smilies/sailor.gif?

MaVeRiCk
31-10-2002, 12:30 PM
:sailor:!

WiCKeD
02-11-2002, 10:46 PM
Originally posted by matando
I'd say; let's just try it out without any restrictions.
CtF is no deathmatch it's more about tactics. off course 2 div1 clans will kick most of the lower combination there ass, but lower clans might have far better tactics and will beat clans that are much higher then they are.

Let's just see how it goes, it'll be fun anyways :)


agreed :)

Flex
03-11-2002, 01:25 AM
Originally posted by Switch

http://smilies.networkessence.net/otn/other/ymca.gif [CTA]flex[UK]


[UK] ghey!!! thats like Lynx and the dutch flag in his avatar: sooo not true :)

Hutt'nKloas
07-11-2002, 11:37 AM
CTF Clan Name: Viscious Shadow Kiddies
CTF Clan Tag: VSK
HLCCL Clans Under Umbrella: (SC) & [VLK1]
CTF Clanleader: Hutt + ?(one of VLK)
CTF Clan Deputies: JohnMcClane + ? (one of VLK)
Preffered Day: Tuesday/Thursday
Members:
Momitsu
Vanqman
Arakis
Zee
Eardrum
Br0dy
RaV
LuGGs
Kinetic
The Curse
Godsbane
Matando
Silent Ghost
JohnMcClane
MXstream
Lucretius
Scorpion
Hutt'nKloas

Additional info: Irc channel #vskclan
CL and Deputy of VLK department needs to be set

ehc|Crash
07-11-2002, 08:41 PM
Originally posted by [CWA]Steve
Yeh I suggest in the spirit of hlcup ratios that Div1 clans are forced to mix with div7 clans, and div2 with div6 etc. This way the teams should be much more even, and the league wont be ruled by all the div1 clans joining together. Would be a lot more fun methinks.

Well said. if not -[D]- and [pmers] and [CWA] forms a team this thing is already over, who will beat BK? (no offence to the other clans but lets be honest, they are the best team announced atm and will prolly be if not -[D]-,[pmers] and [CWA] get together so the mxing DIV ideah was great imho.
/thx

Sidekick
07-11-2002, 09:56 PM
CTF Clan Name*: ?
CTF Clan Tag*: [FAG] :)
HLCCL Clans under CTF Umbrella*: TAG - The Assassins Guild and FP - Flowerpower
CTF Clan Leader (up to 2)*:Sauron (FP) and some TAGGIE
CTF Clan Deputy (up to 2): Some FP member and Sidekick
Preffered Day(tuesday or Thursday)*: ?
Members:
[FAG]Ganja
[FAG]CaptainPugwash
[FAG] Sauron
[FAG] Diantalvic
[FAG]CyberR@ver
[FAG]Sn@ke
[FAG]Tramazi
[FAG]Revolver
[FAG]Missile_B@it
[FAG]PsychoSi
[FAG]Listee
[FAG]MSI
[FAG]ViRuS
[FAG]Lord Soth
[FAG]Nikolas
[FAG]The Dude
[FAG]Rides
[FAG]Newbz
[FAG]Baldnut
[FAG]Cahonis
[FAG]Coopa
These guys are the FP members. Next the TAGGIES
[FAG]Henchmen
[FAG]Sidekick
[FAG]Gsteiger
[FAG]Banzai
[FAG]Speedy
[FAG]Senz
[FAG]P-Nut
[FAG]Gsus
[FAG]UI
[FAG]Mort
[FAG]Riga

:)

Some of the details are not complete.. We WILL take care of it SOON!! We just did not want to be left out this kewl league :)

Sidekick out..

psygothic
07-11-2002, 10:58 PM
CTF Clan Name: Viscious Fraggin' Kiddies
CTF Clan Tag: VFK
HLCCL Clans Under Umbrella: [M.A.K] & [VLK2]
CTF Clanleader: Zaxx & Psy.GoTHiC
CTF Clan Deputies: Golem(?) & StinG
Preffered Day: Tuesday/Thursday
Members:
ZaxxoN
Flygirl
Trippa
Rage
Golem
Alba
Woop
Psy.GoTHiC
Furie
SymBiote
R.I.P.
StinG
Smasher
Shoyru
Nuts|o0

-Info: Irc channel #vfkclan, (#clan[MAK] & #vlkclan).
-[M.A.K] still has to register to hlccl, will be done asap. some agreements still have to be made with vlk's for leadership and so on. And surely more people will join VFK.

[TAG]Hench
07-11-2002, 11:56 PM
Members:
[FAG]Ganja
[FAG]CaptainPugwash
[FAG] Sauron
[FAG] Diantalvic
[FAG]CyberR@ver
[FAG]Sn@ke
[FAG]Tramazi
[FAG]Revolver
[FAG]Missile_B@it
[FAG]PsychoSi
[FAG]Listee
[FAG]MSI
[FAG]ViRuS
[FAG]Lord Soth
[FAG]Nikolas
[FAG]The Dude
[FAG]Rides
[FAG]Newbz
[FAG]Baldnut
[FAG]Cahonis
[FAG]Coopa
[FAG]Henchmen
[FAG]Sidekick
[FAG]Gsteiger
[FAG]Banzai
[FAG]Speedy
[FAG]Senz
[FAG]P-Nut
[FAG]Gsus
[FAG]UI
[FAG]Mort
[FAG]Riga


do u think we have members enough?
i`ll doubt it :)

Hutt'nKloas
08-11-2002, 12:12 AM
OOOH Coolies, 2 more to participate:cool:

[TAG]Speedy
08-11-2002, 11:31 AM
[FAG] gonna rule, watch ur ass peeps! ;)

Hutt'nKloas
08-11-2002, 11:33 AM
gonna buy me a buttprotector;)

MaVeRiCk
08-11-2002, 03:11 PM
:sailor:

raz!el
08-11-2002, 04:16 PM
...mmmh nice =)
Let's begin toooooo r0x0r :D

bikkel killers
=XTA=
[FAG]
vfk
vsk
[CTA][UK]
K|A
-mfc-

so far or?

-BANZAI-
08-11-2002, 11:23 PM
Hmmm not extremly thrilled with the name and it makes me sound inveracious by saying this:
We [FAG]s are gonna rape you all!!!!!

..but i dont care:P

[TAG]Hench
09-11-2002, 02:08 AM
Bend over here come the FAG`s :)

Psymonkee
09-11-2002, 03:49 AM
rofl

:)

raz!el
09-11-2002, 02:23 PM
The league will start next week or?

Sauron
10-11-2002, 03:08 PM
thursday sidekick :)

Uibikkel
10-11-2002, 06:47 PM
were gona tear your assholes too pieces :naughty:

Sidekick
10-11-2002, 08:40 PM
CTFAG :) Capture the FAG

Plz bend over so i can stick my crowbar up yer *.

Should we consider a model in pink?

Sidekick out..

alba
11-11-2002, 02:53 PM
VFK rulezzZZzZzZZ 1337 :sailor:

BulliT
12-11-2002, 01:32 AM
PMERS is signing up aswell.
Today we are alone in this, but I dont know what happens tomorrow :)

muphicks
12-11-2002, 09:01 PM
Not read all the 120 posts so I've no idea if mup have been mentioned :P

But I've spoken to Jesus, he knows me, and he knows I'm right, I've been talking to jesus all my life... oooo yes he kno..... erm sorry, slight outburst there....

Anyhow, [*mup*] and (g0dSquad) are gonna team up for the CTF league. Not sure which players in each clan want to play, but we should have enough :)

We only want to join the g0ds cause we fear J0sephs xbows :P

*JC*
13-11-2002, 01:09 AM
Originally posted by muphicks
Not read all the 120 posts so I've no idea if mup have been mentioned :P

But I've spoken to Jesus, he knows me, and he knows I'm right, I've been talking to jesus all my life... oooo yes he kno..... erm sorry, slight outburst there....

Anyhow, [*mup*] and (g0dSquad) are gonna team up for the CTF league. Not sure which players in each clan want to play, but we should have enough :)

We only want to join the g0ds cause we fear J0sephs xbows :P


Yep...i second this here babble
Sign us up:)

Hutt'nKloas
13-11-2002, 10:28 AM
Cool, another team joinin:E
lets partyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!

Psymonkee
13-11-2002, 10:37 AM
/parties like its 1999.....again :D

dize.pc
13-11-2002, 08:56 PM
the [FAG] guys are definetly teh bomb.
:D

-[Rasta]-
15-11-2002, 01:53 PM
can I play?

*JC*
15-11-2002, 02:29 PM
Originally posted by -[Rasta]-
can I play?

Play with us ya ikkle bueaty :)
Get the 357 on the asses :)

IS THIS OK ??? CAN RASTA PLAY WITH US ? (if he wants 2?)

:)

raz!el
17-11-2002, 11:23 PM
When does this league start??????

Snake
18-11-2002, 04:36 PM
Originally posted by [TAG]Hench
Members:
[FAG]Ganja
[FAG]CaptainPugwash
[FAG] Sauron
[FAG] Diantalvic
[FAG]CyberR@ver
[FAG]Sn@ke
[FAG]Tramazi
[FAG]Revolver
[FAG]Missile_B@it
[FAG]PsychoSi
[FAG]Listee
[FAG]MSI
[FAG]ViRuS
[FAG]Lord Soth
[FAG]Nikolas
[FAG]The Dude
[FAG]Rides
[FAG]Newbz
[FAG]Baldnut
[FAG]Cahonis
[FAG]Coopa
[FAG]Henchmen
[FAG]Sidekick
[FAG]Gsteiger
[FAG]Banzai
[FAG]Speedy
[FAG]Senz
[FAG]P-Nut
[FAG]Gsus
[FAG]UI
[FAG]Mort
[FAG]Riga


do u think we have members enough?
i`ll doubt it :)



Just an FYI for the admins, and any TAG / FP members

ViRuS is no longer an FP player, he's KIA5 now.

The Dude is also no longer with FP.

Night$hade
19-11-2002, 03:50 AM
i will take their place!

Psymonkee
19-11-2002, 10:12 AM
your FP j00 monkey :)

muphicks
20-11-2002, 01:56 AM
Jesus is having probs with forums so I'm posting this for him:

well, if we aint to late ?

CTF Clan Name: [G0dzAmuPPeT]
CTF Clan Tag*: [GaM]
HLCCL Clans under CTF Umbrella*: (G0dSquad) and [*mup*]
CTF Clan Leader (up to 2)*: *JeSuS* and Hicks
CTF Clan Deputy (up to 2): *J0seph*
Preffered Day for Matches(Tuesday or Thursday)*: Thursday
Members and Tag Display Info:

*JeSuS*[GaM]
*ChRiSt*[GaM]
*MoZeZ*[GaM]
*J0seph*[GaM]
*Medus@*[GaM]
*ArchAnGeL*[GaM]
*Kane*[GaM]
-[Rasta]-[GaM]
and
Hicks[GaM]
Ninja[GaM]
Ken[GaM]
Diezel[GaM]
DeeP[GaM]
NaTaS[GaM]
Missery[GaM]

Any probs let me and J know.. cheers.


:clap:

P-Nu$
01-12-2002, 02:52 AM
Is TAG signed up?

[TAG]Hench
02-12-2002, 03:48 PM
yep with FP as FAG