~*** TONIGHTS RUNNING SCORES ***~

[MaVeRiCk]

TBUK v JA2


Default to TBUK: [17:38] <HatCHeT> fine, you get default then, problem solved






another default...

/edit

match will be played. hatchet on the happy juice again ;)

[storm^rapid]

lol, from that line, it looked like there was a little tenseness.

:/

[MaVeRiCk]

they wanted to play it at 9pm, i refused cause i wasnt sure if we wouldve got enough players

[Dec]

wtf! hatchet you uber gay we are here on irc sorting a team :D :D :D


all hail ja2 worst team evarrrr

we are playing tbuk at 6

[urge]

http://www.hlccl.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=72592#post72592

.......Sorry will probably a default win for H&D we don't have enough members probably and Chello Cable is ****ed here in Holland.......

[alba]

pld :E

[[TAG]Hench]

Chello Cable is ****ed here in Holland.......


you can say that again...


BarryLeague - HLCCL Server (3)|381ms|213.221.176.11:27017


:/

[irish]

deeeefault - DHD vs TS - no show :(

[S|inky]

FP v ET

default to FP

no show by ET

[alba]

eT is nearly death i know ... coz all peeps of the clan aren't on the irc chan anymore ;(

[-[S@NDM@N]-]

(SC) vs .[TT].

I covered match for burnout who was away

http://www.mw-net.co.uk/sc_v_tt.jpg

Very laggy game and well played for sticking at it, remember its only a game no need to get worked up I know lag can piss ofd the best of players. Anyway TT agree to let SC play the 2 map (SC's map & settings) on another date/time.

http://www.mw-net.co.uk/sc_v_tt2.jpg

[[KIA]EddZ]

I think they are playing right now on SCs server. I hope they asked permission for this.

[Helical]

So whats happened with TBUK v JA2 ?

[Whip*]

they are playin now :)

[2Drunk2Funk]

Pings in ASE were 300+ for me, BUT in server they were normal.
In fact, slightly better than they have been for a while :eek:

[-TARBY-]

ITV and VLK - Draw in the match dunno what that means in factors etc...

VLK are fecking good and I dunno what ladder they are in? We only just beat them on Crossy , if pings had be equal we would have been dead.

Again we are plagued by bad pings amd freaky lag shots..

Other than that it was a good hard clean game of HL

[Pavlos]

servers feckin shite as per normal :/

[Boris]

Scores are coming helical.
I admined in the end.

[Whip*]

VLK = div 6 or even 7

[storm^rapid]

i think the hadicap factor of itv vs vlk was 1.8, so times vlks score by 1.8 to get the correct result.

[Dec]

servers werent TOO bad for me, except for occasional pauses of lag

[Eardrum]

VLK are Div 7 in league
VLK Cup Ratio ITV had to score 1.8 more

VGG ITV peeps shame bout ping's (norm 4 me 56k that):P

Thx Whop 4 admin

[Cam]

dec took my karma was like bouncey day on bouncey castle in bouncey castle world or summat

i dont get it:(!!!

[Helical]

O.........

Cheers Boris.

[Dec]

quiet now cam, sleep

[Boris]

TBUK vs JA2

Waited for Helical and when it became apparent he wasnt coming I admined instead.(JA2 were ok with this).

JA2s map Homeworld ws 1 ff 0
http://members.lycos.co.uk/tbuk/tbukja2homeworld110802.jpg
Sico left with -4 frags.
134-81(85-4)
TBUKs map map Fling ws 0 ff 0
http://members.lycos.co.uk/tbuk/tbukja2fling110802.jpg
170-100
With handicaps applied

Ja2 handicap group 5 81*1.8=145 TBUK handicap group 2=134
JA2 win on handicap
Ja2 handicap group 5 100*1.8=180 TBUK handicap group 2=170
Ja2 win on handicap.


JA2 win 2-0

[EnIgMa]

ok i hope i get this right..... glc vs hopfun

gasworks - hopfun map

hopfun 109 + handicap = 130
glc 59

hopfun win.

farwell - glc map

hopfun 226 + handicap 271
glc 157

hopfun win.. overall

[Dilbert]

Thanks for letting us play despite tunring up late HOP, struggling for players toninght i am afraid, thanks for Enigma for waiting around.

Maybe been a bit closer if we had 5 players rather thna 3 most of the time but I dont think we stood a chance with the ratios even with 5 ... gg


Farewell
http://www.everitt.nildram.co.uk/images/glcvhopfun.jpg


Gassy
http://www.everitt.nildram.co.uk/images/glcvhopfun2.jpg

[whop]

close games itv vs vlk ..hand probs with turning wg off

but thxs tarbzs for helping to fix it

first map crossfire

[VLK] kills 224 deaths 284

[ITV] kills 255 deaths 253

second map stalkx

[VLK] kills 244 deaths 198

[ITV] kills 170 deaths 271

draw but other all vlk win cause off handy cap

screens be up asap once i accessed my web host to upload them as mines playing up

[Cam]

oops forgotsy gg tbuk

even mav the sailooooor


gg

[whop]

vlk map stalkx
http://whop.freeservers.com/stalkx0012.jpg


itv map crossfire
http://whop.freeservers.com/crossfire0003.jpg

havent worked handy cap out

[Boris]

ggs Ja2 some nice shots from Rasta on fling :)

[MaVeRiCk]

the handicaps are just not right


JA2 and VLK are rated too low for their capabilities.

Some other clans as well

[Cam]

shhh sailooooooor:)!(!(!)(!)(!)!()!(!)(!)!()!(

[MaVeRiCk]

gg JA2

cam u know i r right :tongue:

[MaVeRiCk]

PDK v KGB


No show KGB
Default to PDK

[Boris]

Originally posted by MaVeRiCk
the handicaps are just not right


JA2 and VLK are rated too low for their capabilities.

Some other clans as well

Yes indeed.
JA2 were rated when they hadnt even played a game yet.
Did they state their ability or what?

If this continues I see Ja2 winning the cup with ease

[Sorrow]

lol ja2 is so leet they will win the cup without winning a map

now thats true leetness


/meek btw
cant even be arsed to log out on me own pute rofl

[MORT]

:laugh:


seems to me that some people just arent happy no matter what, last cup it was people complaning that they only got to play one match in it because they were matched up by a clan that far outclassed them, this time its because of handicaps brought in because afore mentioned people were complaining

why dont you all just get on with playing and having fun?

[*HatCHeT*]

pld mort :)

and oh so true

[Hicks]

rasta cam and ducky joined after the ratings, also mav, if you didnt make a fuss in #ja earlier, you wouldnt have got them so committed to getting a team together and would have walked away with a default, dec even put something back an hour so he could play and rasta was supposed to be going out too :)

thems the breaks m8, soz

gg anyway chaps

[*HatCHeT*]

we didnt write the rules after all

wouldnt be suprised if they change soon though

[Dilbert]

And when alls said and done they only beat you by a few frags after the handicaps were applied .... which makes it look like a good handicap rating to me....... ok they only had 4 playser but hey ho thems the breaks and like Hicks said u nearly got a default.... would you have questioned their rating then out of interest ?

[SuperFLY]

lol

PAIN4U vs PMERS

1st up that vomit stain of a map direct from the devils arse.. outcry (u might guess i dont like the map ;))
http://www.hlccl.com/superfly/screenies/pain4upmersoutcry.jpg

and afterwards.. a new map, ive only pld it a couple of times now and i have to say.. i rather like it. homeworld :D its a bit dark but hey
http://www.hlccl.com/superfly/screenies/pain4upmershomeworld.jpg

n1 guys.. got straight down to it.. no fiddling :D

[-[S@NDM@N]-]

[KIA] vs [*mup*]

Covered for General

http://www.mw-net.co.uk/kia_v_mup0.jpg

http://www.mw-net.co.uk/kia_v_mup1.jpg

Played both clans

EDIT EDDZ: Ratios means scores were

Combat 2 KIA 303 MUP 129
Datacore KIA 270 MUP 255

ggs

[Renkie]

Originally posted by MaVeRiCk
the handicaps are just not right


JA2 and VLK are rated too low for their capabilities.

Some other clans as well


I thought the same, so when Momi (VLK) was here lanning I asked him about it
He told me he said 4 - 5 times to the admins that they were rated to low but nothing was changed

Guess som1 has to open his eyes :P

[Chamfer]

gg ja2 :D we pwn the world ffs :D

[storm^don]

exactly ! we just pld pain4u a division 1 clan and had to beat em with a ratio or 1.5 ! tis :sailor:

[[KIA]EddZ]

Some handicaps are slightly!! out. But then that was always going to happen.

Nothing will be changed though, just noted for next cup. Those taht are bandits will meet their matches at some time in cup. Always gonna be a winner and a loser, and I did the best I could in finding out as much as possible about teams b4 cup, but I just dont have the time to talk to a million people.

Some peeps never happy.

[[KIA]EddZ]

Yet you drew Din, I mean Don, I dont understand youir problem?

[Boris]

Dedication vs Ep2
Default to D
no show from ep2

[[KIA]Moonymaster]

I r admined ARMA v UFO

was 5 v 3 and a tad shamblee but every1 was cool n calm and no moaning whatsoever!! EVEN 2drunk2funk was happy OMG! :D :D soz m8

Arma won both Heavypole and StalkX comfortably, even with ratios i doubt ufo beat em.

1 prob, my c: drive was full or summat and the autoscreen shot fuked up and made me pc crash.... so basically no screens ;(

can ne1 who has em host'n'post plz

thankies!

[ExtremeViolence]

Based on our outcry 5on4 play, we should have been rated even lower... anyway, it was gg

[storm^don]

yep gg :)

[[pmers]bobs]

Yep GG. I was totally lost on homeworld :)

[*HatCHeT*]

as dilbert said, in the case of tbuk - ja2

after handicaps were applied, JA2 only just won... that shows me that the handicap system ir pretty much right

either that or tbuk are placed in too high a division :)

[spirit]

Here you go moonz :)

Heavypole.....
http://www.arma.gametribe.net/arma_results/arma_screens/armavufo.heavypole.11.08.02.jpg

Stalkx........
http://www.arma.gametribe.net/arma_results/arma_screens/armavufo.stalkx.11.08.02.jpg


ggs UFO, hope we can play you when you have 5 mateys, nice attitude, nice clan. Thanks moonz for leet admininging :)

[[KIA]Moonymaster]

cheers hun ;D

pleasure to admin too :cool:

[S_P_S]

=ONE= V MIB

2-0 to MIB

can someone host screenies for me please :cry:

booty

mib 115
=one= 72
after ratio 108 frags


rustmill

mib 196
=one= 68
after ratio 102

[[KIA]EddZ]

Just actually looked at the TBUK v JA2 match. JA2 win by a couple on each map?


I dont understand your complaint Mav.

Is it that you lost your home map? because if so thats just due to JA2s ability to play your mpa betterthan you assumed.

4 v 5 is no reason either, as its less peeps to kill, so doesnt always work out as a walkover just cos 1 man short.

Your complaint is not only unfounded, but unreasonable, and looks to me to be nothing more than sour grapes.

[irish]

mib classix vs ea
one member of mib - a.r.c. had wrong wonid
it was a simple typing mistake an 8 in place of 9
mib gave ea the default as they only had 3 players and are fixing it .

[Golem]

TAG ./. DDT

Tag no show (we waited till 20.30 GMT)

Default to DDT

http://www.kaisers.ch/HL/Tag_DDT.jpg

:)

[Boris]

Originally posted by Dilbert
And when alls said and done they only beat you by a few frags after the handicaps were applied .... which makes it look like a good handicap rating to me....... ok they only had 4 playser but hey ho thems the breaks and like Hicks said u nearly got a default.... would you have questioned their rating then out of interest ? Questioned it last week m8 before we were even scheduled to play each other.

[*HatCHeT*]

:O

pld eddz :)

[ExtremeViolence]

nice scores golem :)

[MaVeRiCk]

you dont get me

when u look at the ITV v VLK for a second

you might notice something odd...?

ITV had to beat em with 1.8 handicap

then look at the scores again. somethings just not right :P

afaik Arma handicap was adjusted as well when Swift and Sweeper joined isnt it?

im not into a flame :)

[[KIA]Moonymaster]

the amount of defaults is worryingly gh3y......

[MaVeRiCk]

true moony

[[KIA]Moonymaster]

Originally posted by MaVeRiCk
afaik Arma handicap was adjusted as well when Swift and Sweeper joined isnt it?

yeh but thats was b4 the cup started u aaaaaaaaap :tongue:

[Golem]

Originally posted by ExtremeViolence
nice scores golem :)

yeah, we always give our best :cool:

[MORT]

and here we have it folks, the weekly moan and flame in the results thread


cuppa and a cookie anyone?

[*HatCHeT*]

that was before they were 2 weeks into the cup though mav

"oh no, wolverhampton have just signed ronaldo 4 weeks into the season! put them in the premiership quick!"

[Cam]

ja2 havent had any new ppl who r really outta place in ja2 though everyone is still sorta same level or below ( poor meh) and to me seems like sorta in right grouping :(!)(!

[desdinovA]

Shame we can`t play...
No PC player even knows about the game.
We`re out.

<desdinovA> I am about to post that we get a default, you wanna say sth?
<moz42> i play alone
<desdinovA> you can`t play alone
<moz42> i play you 1on1
<desdinovA> you need at least 3 players
<moz42> i count for 3
<desdinovA> this conv. is over

[[KIA]EddZ]

VLK handicap is unfair, but your claim Mav that JA 2s is is total pap.

Just sore cos you lost.

Do you see ITV in here shouting and whining, they understand that a mistake has been made, and at that not a massive one, but they also had a good and fun match. If we get tanked by HOP and GLC (2 x there score), you wont see us in here pissing and whining.

Some are never happy, a very high percentage of the handicaps are right, a couple of clans aren't quite right, and most of those only slightly out. If you really want to complain, then make a seperate thread, where it can be discussed, not fill this thread with crap, week in week out.

[Sorrow]

lol hatchee you'd wish ;)

[[KIA]Moonymaster]

Originally posted by [KIA]EddZ
then make a seperate thread, where it can be discussed, not fill this thread with crap, week in week out.

can some forum mod do that plz? slap all the crap is this thread into a new one thx, i gotta admin now.

[MaVeRiCk]

week in week out?

pff

[Key-]

theres always at least 1 flame in here tho

[[KIA]EddZ]

week in week out wasn't aimed at you personally, sorry it sounded that way, was meant that this thread gets filled week in week out with complaints, yours this week others other weeks. Again my apologies.

[MaVeRiCk]

ok :)


/felt kicked in the ass real hard all of a sudden ;)

[Cam]

always seems to be a common victim though:(!!

how it hurts :(!!!

sailooooooooor!!

[Sorrow]

you feel that way always mav :P
something i take good care of :E

/your MASTER

and you know you like it!1!!

[Boris]

Originally posted by *HatCHeT*
that was before they were 2 weeks into the cup though mav

"oh no, wolverhampton have just signed ronaldo 4 weeks into the season! put them in the premiership quick!"
Hmm football isnt a good model for this argument,
No handicaps in football.
Fa cup prem club plays non league side.Prem side dont have to score non leagues goals x2 :P

[stazine]

hi, i want to take this opportunity and say ****off to all clans that dont show up for a game, without telling a word to the clan they are supposed to play before the game is supposed to start. so there it is, a big fu-ck_off, for screwing up loads of other peoples evening.

[BlackDeath]

right here's RFC vs FRiCKeN:

RFC: total 204 + 162 = 366
FRiCKeN: total 115 + 180 = 295

win: RFC (no realy? :E)

right and no handicap so it's just a win for RFC...

screenies:

http://members.home.nl/jptekst/hlccl-screens/outcry0000.jpg
http://members.home.nl/jptekst/hlccl-screens/lost_village20000.jpg

Realy nice match, perfectly clean from any moaning and just a good match! Thanks alot m8eee's :)

BD

ps. If I forget something to mention pls say so :)

[2Drunk2Funk]

NOS v MAFIA

NOS 5v4 MAFIA Stalkx WS0, FF1
http://www.sij.brown.btinternet.co.uk/gameshots/CUP_NOSvMAFIA_stalkx110802.jpg


Then Rapidcore 4v4 WS 0, FF1
http://www.sij.brown.btinternet.co.uk/gameshots/CUP_NOSvMAFIA_rapidcore110802.jpg

Baby duty now, ratios later

Group 2v 4 Ratio 1.5
Final scores
Stalkx 223 - 171
Rapid 244 - 105
NOS win

[Switch]

ZT vs PC

ZT take the default, no show from PC

[Dilbert]

DHD v SKILL ... I had some problems getting the server to chnage to the right settings for some reason ... dunno if its lack of practice or whatever... just didnt seem to want to do what I wanted no matter what...... thanks to Jugger for helping me get it sorted.

GG guys, skill didnt seem happy with their Home map they had chosen, their settings they had chosed the servers after the first map they played on and everything else for that matter but in the end played the game and gave it their all.... nice to watch guys.

Undertow
http://www.everitt.nildram.co.uk/images/dhdvskill1.jpg

LV2
http://www.everitt.nildram.co.uk/images/dhdvskill2.jpg


DHD and Skill in the same Cup groups so no ratios involved

[Sauron]

no show from [WOL] default to [KIA5]

[sod-ffs]

cheers for adminin BD

and played to all involved in our match was excellent fun...had to remove me socks inbetween maps...was meltin lol :eek:

played all :)

[sane]

ye gg ya

http://www.islandfm.guernsey.net/images/monkee.jpg

[*HatCHeT*]

you're looking too deeply into the words boris, you philosophical ming you :)

by saying that i was highlighting mav's statement about arma being changed group when they took on sweeper etc... when arma did it, the cup hadnt started, it had when we did it


the football analogy can be explained thus

ja2 = wolverhampton
our better players = ronaldo

it's stupidity to move wolverhampton (ja2) up because they have a good player in ronaldo (our good players)

run along now :p

[Dalehead]

JA v SF

Bit of a shambly start, but once the game started all played in good spirits.
JA just outclassed and outnumbered SF, and even with the 2.5 x 1 ratio, JA win 2-0

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/w.griffiths2/JAvSF_rapid.jpg
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/w.griffiths2/JAvSF_stalkx.jpg

[[KIA]Moonymaster]

fuk lol

so far [SF] have gotten REALLY nasty teams to play against

thank f00k its league next week, i just hope these ::thrashings:: aint put them off ;(

[-[S@NDM@N]-]

-|MOD|- vs [CWD]

http://www.mw-net.co.uk/mod_v_cwd1.jpg

http://www.mw-net.co.uk/mod_v_cwd2.jpg

So when you apply the cals of a x1.3 handicap it looks as follows

MOD 261.3 frags to CWD 295 frags = CWD win map1
MOD 262.6 frags to CWD 273 frags = CWD win map2... just :tongue:

gg and well pld guys

[Whip*]

gg MOD was fun

[[KIA]Moonymaster]

thx or posting screens m8

pld both teams

[-TARBY-]

I see some odd posts in here..

At the end of the day we were happy just tp play a game and not have a default.
VLK are rated to low but, hey, thats life.

Its just one of those things. We all got shitty lagg, thats the major moan from us and VLK. Pavlos. Spucko and Hitman couldnt hit shit tonight and if they were playing as per normal I think Crossfire would have been better for us and Stalkkx closer

Thanks Inzane for admining us btw. :)

[storm^rapid]

storm vs pnk - yet another ****ing default - When i asked them why they have no team, they said that the rest were on holiday, then i asked why they didn't tell us so we didn't waste our evening they said 'we thought we could have fun' or something, i think they means a 2v2 or something, but please can clans just tell other clans the moment they know they can make it :(

sucks.

nice score on heavypole btw spirit

[Key-]

gg cwd :)

[-TARBY-]

Originally posted by desdinovA
Shame we can`t play...
No PC player even knows about the game.
We`re out.

<desdinovA> I am about to post that we get a default, you wanna say sth?
<moz42> i play alone
<desdinovA> you can`t play alone
<moz42> i play you 1on1
<desdinovA> you need at least 3 players
<moz42> i count for 3
<desdinovA> this conv. is over


Thats bad, you dealy with that well.

[Boris]

CAN vs GODSQUAD

Can asked for an admin so I came in the server as did switch(aint we nice ;) )

Cans map Stalkyard ws 0 ff 1
http://members.lycos.co.uk/tbuk/cangsstalk110802.jpg
222-167

Godsquads map Vengeance ws 0 ff 0
http://members.lycos.co.uk/tbuk/cangsveng110802.jpg
163-119

Now for the Handicaps.

Stalkyard
Can handicap group 2=222 Godsquad handicap group 4 1.5x167=250

Godsquad win 250-222

Vengeance
Can handicap group 2 163 Godsquad handicap group 4 1.5x119=178

Godsquad win again 178-163

2-0 win to Godsquad

[-TARBY-]

Well I never...

[XiSz]

(!!!) @ Ratio, n00bish

[.[TT].Voodoo]

Originally posted by [KIA]EddZ
I think they are playing right now on SCs server. I hope they asked permission for this.

We tried to find an admin to play the second map on another server, but nobody responded.. because it took too long and some members had to go we decided that we would (as we said after the first map) play the map later this week...

gg anyway... no wanking or crying about lag during the game and nice attitudes :smokin:
Thnx Sandman for adminning!

[mib|-i.z.e.-]

Screens mib vs ONE:

Rustmill :

http://mib-clan.finelines.de/hlccl/handicap_cup/one_rust.jpg



Bootcamp :

http://mib-clan.finelines.de/hlccl/handicap_cup/one__boot.jpg

gg

[-TARBY-]

Originally posted by XiSz
(!!!) @ Ratio, n00bish

Not really. Infact I think it's anything from 'n00bish'. The HLCCL has created a new format for a cup.. Its down to the cup organisors to explain the whys and wherefores but as far as I am concerned, people had enough time to moan about the handicaps before the cup started.

Infact I am totally happy that Eddz actually waited for discussion to be thrashed out before the cup was started..

[MORT]

Originally posted by XiSz
(!!!) @ Ratio, n00bish


aaaaaaaaaaand the saga continues ;)

[sidewinder]

it was a good ratio xisz, the match was close

[spirit]

Originally posted by storm^rapid


nice score on heavypole btw spirit

Thanks matey :D hehe i was quiet chuffed till i saw Garpys score of 98-0 then i quickly realised i was still a noob :cry:

[Dec]

can moaning again?
surprise :D

[Cam]

dec play nice u ****ing ghey numpty bhoy

[M.Focker]

I.Z.E!!!

Did you HAVE to post that screen m8? :P

very good game, mib are class players. seeya soon.